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PostPosted: Sat 07 Apr 2012 12:49 pm 
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An Carghas is Lent in Irish.

How would you say, 'Did you give up anything for Lent?' Anything that I can came up with for the 'to give up' sounded like Béarlachas. So I went to the dictionary...

'troscadh an carghais a dhéanamh' and 'an carghas a dhéanamh' are in De Bhaldraithe.

Are these correctly used, 'An ndearna tú troscadh an carghais?' and 'An ndearna tú an carghas?'

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Saoirse wrote:
An Carghas is Lent in Irish.

How would you say, 'Did you give up anything for Lent?' Anything that I can came up with for the 'to give up' sounded like Béarlachas. So I went to the dictionary...

'troscadh an carghais a dhéanamh' and 'an carghas a dhéanamh' are in De Bhaldraithe.

Are these correctly used, 'An ndearna tú troscadh an carghais?' and 'An ndearna tú an carghas?'


I would say " Ag déanamh An Carghas" if you were giving up something for Lent.
Well actually I'd say "ag déanamh An Charghas" but other spellings seems to be the Standard.
"troscadh agus tréanas" -
Troscadh only applies to not eating food as far as I know - fasting.
Tréanas is not eating meat. Like on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.

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PostPosted: Sat 07 Apr 2012 2:14 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
I would say " Ag déanamh An Carghas" if you were giving up something for Lent.
Well actually I'd say "ag déanamh An Charghas" but other spellings seems to be the Standard.


I'd say you're right Bríd about ag déanamh An Charghas (Genitive).

FGB gives Rinne mé an Carghas ar an ól - I abstained from drink during Lent.


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Tá an tuiseal ginideach i ngach uile áit! :pages: Níl é cinnte anois go bhfuil mé ag iarraidh bheith cairdiúil leis. :no:

It must be 'leis' and not 'leí'; nothing that frustrating could be female. :twisted:

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I'd say you're right Bríd about ag déanamh An Charghas (Genitive).

Could someone please explain what triggers the use of the genitive here?

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Aislingeach wrote:
Scooby wrote:
I'd say you're right Bríd about ag déanamh An Charghas (Genitive).

Could someone please explain what triggers the use of the genitive here?

GRMA


The verbal noun triggers the genitive.

Peil---Ag imirt peile
Ceol---An seinm ceoil
An ghrian---Ag sú na gréine


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Scooby wrote:
The verbal noun triggers the genitive.

Peil---Ag imirt peile
Ceol---An seinm ceoil
An ghrian---Ag sú na gréine


Aw, crumb! :facepalm: I think I knew that. For some reason I don't see "noun" when I read verbal nouns, I see "verb" so I need more work with those.

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