Hey all,

I've seen "srl." used as an Irish version of the English abbreviation of the Latin et cetera (etc.). Are there commonly used Irish versions of other common Anglo-Latin abbreviations? For example "e.g." or "i.e."?

Regarding percentages, I'm familiar with "céad faoin gcéad" (100%). Am I correct in assuming that this is one of those cases in which "faoi" doesn't literally mean "under"? So "80%" would be "Ochtó faoin gcéad"?

Trying to sharpen up the details ahead of the upcoming DSG!

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Redwolf

In the Collins dictionary - faoi/faoin is also given to mean - in or within - for example - faoin tuath or faoi choicís den Nollaig.
e.g. is - m.sh (mar shampla)
i.e. is - .i. (is é sin)
http://www.daltai.com/grammar/abreviations/

Yes, or "faoin chéad" in Donegal. Though whether that is caighdeánach or not, I don't know. I mean, "faoin gcéad" may be a set phrase.

It's not a set phrase, but I heard several Donegal people on the radio who said "céad faoin gcéad" with an urú, simply because you hear/read it all the time in the Irish language media, and it's said/written by people who speak Munster, Connachta or Standard Irish, so they say "céad faoin gcéad", and then the Donegal people think it's a set phrase. But it should be "céad faoin chéad" in this dialect...



I think ".i." is the abbreviation of "id est" (="which is" in Latin). It was already used in Old Irish, they'd use that Latin abbreviation in the middle of Irish texts.

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It might well be that but that's what they give on Daltai for i.e.
http://www.daltai.com/index.php/grammar/abreviations

Yes..."id est" is where the English abbreviation "i.e." comes from.

Yes, (strictly speaking "that is" rather than "which is") but how did "id est/i.e." become ".i."?

a.m. and p.m. = r.n. agus i.n. = roimh nóin agus iarnóin

I think a.m. and p.m. are regularly used in Irish texts.

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maybe .i. is the abbreviation of i.e.
Btw it can't be an Irish thing because in real old Irish, the word for "id est" was "edon" or something like that (in later Irish it's "eadhon"), with no "i"

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I looked to see whether FGB had a list of abbreviations, and noted that, in the Irish-language preface, Ó Dónaill used e.g. and etc. in their English/Latin forms, and not their Irish forms. I didn't see any occurrences of i.e., but I assume tht he would have followed the same pattern there. Perhaps the Irish versions hadn't been created yet, and since they are actually Latin abbreviations, he may have felt that he wasn't giving in to the English language in any case.

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