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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2013 1:21 am 
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Hello all,

As a motivational post, I thought I would ask the question? Why does one learn Irish outside of Ireland?

To me it is part of the Irish "identity" that many people want to be part of. What do you'll think?

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2013 2:00 am 
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For me, it started with a love of the music and grew into a love for the language itself.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2013 5:10 am 
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Wow. I could say that it's tied up in my earliest memories of childhood, and that would be true. Or I could say that me Da, Stephen Daniel, born of two Irish parents, never spoke a word of it, so maybe I'm doing penance, but I guess mostly......why not?

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2013 1:17 pm 
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My family background's mostly Irish, although I was born and brought up in Scotland.

I learned Scottish Gaelic first though, as it was closer to home, with more opportunities to meet native speakers and to get the language on the TV and radio.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2013 1:54 pm 
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I have no Irish ancestor that I know about, but I wanted to learn Irish because I love Celtic cultures and stuff and I love languages and... Irish is the most beautiful language on earth, both when it's pronounced and when it's written.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2013 2:14 pm 
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I can't really answer the question posed as I'm Irish and living in Ireland, but I think it would make such an interesting programme - or series of programmes - to interview and follow people who have done precisely that - learn Irish outside of Ireland or when not from Ireland.

The first time an Irish person encounters someone who has done that, it comes as quite a surprise that people do it. 8O After surprise, comes the guilt/regret about our own situation in Ireland regarding the language..... :no: Uaireanta bíonn daoine níos Gaelaí ná na Gaeil iad féin...... I remember learning that phrase in school.

But then sometimes the determination follows to improve that situation! 8-)

(Edited at per nit pickers below!!)

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2013 2:58 pm 
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Saoirse wrote:
But then sometimes the determination follows to improve that situation! 8-)

I have a great deal of admiration for you raising your littles through Irish. Many people run their mouths, but you're actually DOING something about it. I respect that. :toast:

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Aislingeach wrote:
I have a great deal of admiration for you raising your littles through Irish. Many people run their mouths, but you're actually DOING something about it. I respect that.
:GRMA: 8-)

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2013 3:38 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
For me, it started with a love of the music and grew into a love for the language itself.

Redwolf

Same here.

In fact, by far the majority of people learning outside Ireland that I have met have actually started with either a love of Irish music or of Irish literature (where they first heard it or saw it) and it developed from there.

I've met far fewer people who claimed to have started because "it was my ancestral tongue", etc. There seems to be a lot more interest from such people in getting themselves tattooed in Irish than in learning to speak it. :LOL:

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2013 6:11 pm 
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Well, there is certainly no utilitarian reason to learn Irish, since every adult Irish speaker also speaks English. The real reason to learn Irish is because you love the language.

I'm quite the book-worm myself, and hope to be reading lots of Irish folklore and poetry. :)
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Uaireanta bíonn daoine níos Gaelaí ná na Gaelaí iad féin
I think it's Níos Gaelaí ná na Gaeil iad féin – sorry if I'm sounding nit-picky. :oops:


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