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PostPosted: Mon 29 Oct 2012 5:43 pm 
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Haigh, a chairde.

I am pretty new with making sentences, so I tried to practice by writing "My girlfriend gave me a book" as Gaeilge. What I came up with was:

Thug mo cailín* mé leabhar.

Or, being more specific, thug mo cailín mé An Hobad.

I thought it might also be something like thug mo cailín leabhar dom.

Am I on the right track at all, or completely wrong? Should cailín be chailín when after mo?

*I wasn't sure what the best term for "girlfriend" was, so I just used cailín. Is there a better term?

GRMA for your help.


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Oct 2012 6:59 pm 
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Thug mo cailín* mé leabhar.


it's not right

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Or, being more specific, thug mo cailín mé An Hobad.

I thought it might also be something like thug mo cailín leabhar dom.


It is "thug mo chailín leabhar dom" in standard Irish and "thug mo chailín leabhar domh" in Ulster Irish.
If it's "an Hobad" it is "thug mo chailín 'An Hobad' domh".
If it's a gift you can use "bhronn" (Ulster "phronn") instead of "thug".
"Mé" cannot be used to say "to me" as in "to give me something/to give something to me".

"Cailín" preceded by a possessive is the common word for "girlfriend" as far as I know.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Oct 2012 10:35 pm 
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Lori wrote:
Should cailín be chailín when after mo?

Yes, mo chailín for "my girlfriend". :yes:

As Lughaidh said above, you need to keep dom in the Irish. (Standard and Munster Irish use dom, Connemara uses dhom (Munster Irish also uses dhom after a vowel or silent consonant), and Ulster Irish uses domh.)

The standard versions are:

Thug mo chailín leabhar dom. "My girlfriend gave me a book" (CO)
Thug mo chailín "An Hobad" dom. "My girlfriend gave me 'The Hobbit'" (CO)
Thug mo chailín dom é. "My girlfriend gave it to me." (CO)

In Connemara, leabhar is mixed gender and so the pronoun is í:

Thug mo chailín dhom í. "My girlfriend gave it to me." (GC)

If you use bronn, then dom changes to orm:

Bhronn mo chailín "An Hobad" orm. "My girlfriend gave me 'The Hobbit' as a present" (CO)

But I think they use agam in Connemara, i.e., Bhronn mo chailín "An Hobad" agam. (possibly originally chugam?)

(Corrections welcome.)

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Oct 2012 2:45 am 
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In Connemara, leabhar is mixed gender and so the pronoun is í:

Thug mo chailín dhom í. "My girlfriend gave it to me." (GC)


In Ulster too (it's not mixed gender in Ulster, it's really feminine: leabhar bheag...)

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If you use bronn, then dom changes to orm:

Bhronn mo chailín "An Hobad" orm. "My girlfriend gave me 'The Hobbit' as a present" (CO)


in Ulster too : Phronn mo chailín 'An Hobad' orm.

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Lughaidh wrote:
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In Connemara, leabhar is mixed gender and so the pronoun is í:

Thug mo chailín dhom í. "My girlfriend gave it to me." (GC)

In Ulster too (it's not mixed gender in Ulster, it's really feminine: leabhar bheag...)

In Connemara, it can be leabhar mór or leabhar mhór, etc., and ainm an leabhair bháin for the genitive, but the pronoun is usually feminine.

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In Munster leabhar is masculine, leabhar mór never *leabhar mhór. However you use í to refer to a book always.

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"thug mo chailín leabhar domh" in Ulster Irish.


Ficrí aisteach anseo ach deirtear dom i dToraigh :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Oct 2012 1:23 pm 
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Ghníom dearmad air sin i dtólamh :mrgreen:
Tuighe a n-abrann siad sin "dom", ffs ? :mrgreen:
Grma a Bhen

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Tá sé aisteach gan dabht ar bith - tá mé cheapadh go raibh siad i dteaghmháil le muintir Mhaigh Eo fadó ó shoin ag iascach agus chuile rud (céard a deir siad i Maigh Eo ar aon chaoi?) agus chuaigh dom i bhfeidhm ar a gcuid cainte. An scéal céanna in Oileán Acla tá a gcuid Gaeilge faoi thionchar muintir Dhún na nGall mar d'aistrigh go leor acab go dtí an t-oileán sin i bhfad siar sa gcéad aimsir.


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