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PostPosted: Sat 06 Oct 2012 9:39 pm 
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This probably sounds ridiculous, but I do not know how to say or even break up 'micreathonn'! In fact, I have avoided the word for years as I keep forgetting to ask somebody and when I need to use it, there is nobody around to ask. Cabhraigh liom le bhur dtoil. :wave:

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 2:44 am 
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The micrea- part should be similar for most dialects but the tonn part may vary (if native speakers bother to use this makey-uppey word at all. :winkgrin: )

.:>:.micrea-
MICK-rhuh
/'m´ik´r´ə-/

The rest of the word will depend on how you pronounce tonn "wave".

The "standardised" lárchanúint (LC) pronunciation of tonn and its plural tonnta would be:

.:>:.tonn (LC) "wave"
TONN
/toN/

.:>:.tonnta (LC) "waves"
TONN-tuh
/toNtə/

For the full compound in a lárchanúint pronunciation:

.:>:.micreathonn (LC) "microwave"
MICK-rhuh-HON
/'m´ik´r´əˌhoN/

.:>:.micreathoinne (LC) "of a microwave"
MICK-rhuh-HON-yih
/'m´ik´r´əˌhoN´ə/

.:>:.micreathonnta (LC) "microwaves"
MICK-rhuh-HON-tuh
/'m´ik´r´əˌhoNtə/

@Saoirse - I hope you realise this is a term from particle physics and not the name for the kitchen appliance. That is oigheann micreathonnach "a microwave oven". Or did you get caught speeding (brath micreathonnach feithicle "microwave vehicle detection")? :LOL:





CONNEMARA PRONUNCIATION
(If you are only interested in standard Irish, don't read any further)

The Connemara pronunciation for tonn and tonnta is:

.:>:.tonn (GC) "wave"
TOON
/tu:N/

.:>:.tonnta (GC) "waves"
TOON-tuh
/tu:Ntə/

An older speaker of Connemara Irish might pronounce them:

.:>:.micreathonn (GC) "microwave"
MICK-rhuh-HOON
/'m´ik´r´əˌhu:N/

.:>:.micreathoinne (GC) "of a microwave"
MICK-rhuh-HWEEN-yih
/'m´ik´r´əˌhi:N´ə/

.:>:.micreathonnta (GC) "of microwaves"
MICK-rhuh-HOON-tuh
/'m´ik´r´əˌhu:Ntə/


Some Connemara speakers pronounce the word tonnta as tonntaí:
.:>:.tonntaí (GC)
/TOON-twee
/tu:Nti:/

They might pronounce the word micreathonnta as micreathonntaí:
.:>:.micreathonntaí (GC)
MICK-rhuh-HOON-twee
/'m´ik´r´əˌhu:Nti:/

(Posted for all you budding particle physicists from Connemara. :D )

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 3:26 am 
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Great work Breandán,

In Munster "tonn" is pronounced like "town", except with an Irish "t", a lengthened "o" sound and a lengthened "n" sound; as if "tonn" was spelled "tomhann", if you gt my drift.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 3:48 am 
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An Cionnfhaolach wrote:
Great work Breandán,

In Munster "tonn" is pronounced like "town", except with an Irish "t", a lengthened "o" sound and a lengthened "n" sound; as if "tonn" was spelled "tomhann", if you gt my drift.

Which essentially rhymes with donn in Munster Irish, nach ea? :)

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 4:16 am 
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"Tonn" is pronounced, in Ulster Irish, as in the "lárchanúint" pronunciation, ie. with a short o (open) sound: "tonn" /toN/.
Genitive singular /tiN'ə/ (as in Connachta but with a short i).
Plural tonntaí (genitive plural tonn or tonntach, I guess).

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 4:27 am 
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Breandán wrote:
Which essentially rhymes with donn in Munster Irish, nach ea? :)


Díreach é :)

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I'd say it's only a "makey-uppy" word because it's a very new concept.

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I have heard what seem like native speakers on TG4 saying the first syllable as if it were English. No surprise I suppose.


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Well, Bríd will probably be along shortly to tell us they actually just use maidhcreabhuéimh (oibhin) in the Gaeltacht.

D'ionradaigh mé mo dhinnéar i mo mhaidhcreabhuéimh nua anocht don chéad uair.
"I nuked my dinner in my new microwave tonight for the first time."

No surprises there either. :winkgrin:

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Oct 2012 11:09 am 
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The number of native speakers that would say micreathonn would be zero


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