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 Post subject: In GOT we trust
PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012 4:15 pm 
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Hi all. I wonder if you would have a look at the translation below for me. It's for my students, to highlight the dangers of word-for-word translation from English (and the over-use of 'got' in place of other verbs). Have I missed other common 'got' phrases? Have I mistranslated? I'm not really looking for other translations unless they are clearly better, as I can think of quite a few myself - almost too many alternatives. Thanks.


THIRD EDITED VERSION FOLLOWING ADVICE:

I got up. I got dressed. I got out of the house at eight o’clock. I got on the bus. I got sick. I got worse and got off the bus. I got lost. I got a shock when I got to school. I couldn’t get over the gate being locked. I couldn’t get over the gate! I got my mobile phone out and got in contact with the school secretary. I got in five minutes later. I got better later on, but my mobile phone got stolen. The thief got away but I got wind of who it was.

When I got home, my Mam asked how I got on. I got into trouble. She’s always trying to get at me. Why can’t we just get along? I just don’t get it!

I am going to get on with things. I’ll get out of the house when I get my homework finished. I’ll get my own back on that thief when I get round to it.



D’éirigh mé. Chuir mé orm mo chuid éadaí/Ghléas mé mé féin. D’fhág mé an teach ar a hocht a chlog. (D’imigh mé ón teach / D’éirigh liom an teach a fhágáil). Chuaigh mé ar an mbus. D’éirigh mé tinn (D’aisig mé/chuir mé amach/chaith mé suas/chaith mé aníos). D’éirigh mé [nó: an tinneas] níos measa/ Chuaigh an tinneas in olcas. Thuirling/D’imigh mé den bhus/D'fhág mé an bus. Chaill mé mo shlí/Chuaigh mé amú. Baineadh geit/preab asam nuair a shroich mé an scoil. Ní fhéadfainn creidiúint go raibh an geata faoi ghlas. Ní raibh mé in ann gabháil thar an ngeata! Thóg mé amach m’fhón póca agus rinne mé teagmháil (chuaigh mé i dteagmháil) le rúnaí na scoile. D’éirigh liom dul isteach sa scoil cúig nóiméad ina dhiaidh sin. Tháinig biseach orm níos déanaí, ach goideadh m’fhón póca. D’éalaigh an gadaí ach chuala mé /dúradh liom cé a bhí ann.

Nuair a tháinig/d’fhill mé abhaile, d’fhiafraigh mo Mham díom conas a d’éirigh liom. Bhí mé i dtrioblóid. Bíonn sí de shíor ag iarraidh locht a fháil orm. Cén fáth nach féidir linn réiteach lena chéile? Ní thuigim é (in aon chor)!

Táim féin chun dul ar aghaidh le cúrsaí. Imeoidh mé liom as an teach nuair a bheidh m’obair bhaile críochnaithe agam. Imreoidh mé díoltas ar an ngadaí sin in am is i dtráth.


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012 7:07 pm 
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Scooby wrote:
Hi all. I wonder if you would have a look at the translation below for me. It's for my students, to highlight the dangers of word-for-word translation from English (and the over-use of 'got' in place of other verbs). Have I missed other common 'got' phrases? Have I mistranslated? I'm not really looking for other translations unless they are clearly better, as I can think of quite a few myself - almost too many alternatives. Thanks.


I got up. I got dressed. I got out of the house at eight o’clock. I got on the bus. I got sick. I got worse and got off the bus. I got lost. I got a shock when I got to school. I got my mobile phone out and got in contact with the school secretary. I got in five minutes later. I got better later on, but my mobile phone got stolen.

When I got home, my Mam asked how I got on. I got into trouble. She’s always trying to get at me. Why can’t we just get along? I just don’t get it!

I am going to get on with things. I’ll get out of the house when I get my homework finished. I’ll get my own back on the thief when I get round to it.



D’éirigh mé. Ghléas mé mé féin. D’fhág mé an teach ar a hocht a chlog. (D’imigh mé ón teach / D’éirigh liom an teach a fhágáil). Chuaigh mé ar an mbus. D’éirigh mé tinn (D’aisig mé/chuir mé amach/chaith mé suas/chaith mé aníos). D’éirigh mé [nó: an tinneas] níos measa/ Chuaigh an tinneas in olcas. D’imigh mé den bhus. Chaill mé mo shlí. Baineadh geit/preab asam nuair a shroich mé an scoil. Thóg mé amach m’fhón póca agus rinne mé teagmháil (chuaigh mé i dteagmháil) le rúnaí na scoile. D’éirigh liom dul isteach sa scoil cúig nóiméad ina dhiaidh sin. Tháinig biseach orm níos déanaí, ach goideadh m’fhón póca.

Nuair a tháinig/d’fhill mé abhaile, d’fhiafraigh mo Mham díom conas a d’éirigh liom. Bhí mé i dtrioblóid. Bíonn sí de shíor ag iarraidh locht a fháil orm. Cén fáth nach féidir linn réiteach lena chéile? Ní thuigim é (in aon chor)!

Táim féin chun dul ar aghaidh le cúrsaí. Imeoidh mé liom as an teach nuair a bheidh m’obair bhaile críochnaithe agam. Imreoidh mé díoltas ar an ngadaí in am is i dtráth.
What a brilliant idea for a lesson! It'd work well for English teachers too!

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 Post subject: Re: In GOT we trust
PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012 7:08 pm 
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The thief got away.
I didn't think I would get away with it.
I need to get away (i.e., take a holiday)
I'm trying to get away from (break the habit of) going to bed late.
Mom says I need to get rid of the junk in my room.
I need a note from my Mom to get out of school tomorrow.
Have you got that? (i.e., do you understand)

This phrase probably isn't as common here as in the States, but: I've got to clean my room.

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 Post subject: Re: In GOT we trust
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I could be wrong but Ghléas mé mé féin feels more like "I got dressed up" to me. For simply getting dressed in the morning, wouldn't Chuir mé mo chuid éadaigh orm. suffice?

Thuirling mé den bhus as another way to say "I got off the bus"?

Just suggestions for consideration. As you say, what you have isn't wrong and there is no real need to change it that I can see.

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 Post subject: Re: In GOT we trust
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Thanks folks - that's exactly what I was looking for. Breandán, you're probably right about gléas,; I hadn't given it much thought. And thuirling mé is actually how I would normally translate it. I just forgot on this occasion.


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 Post subject: Re: In GOT we trust
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Breandán wrote:
I could be wrong but Ghléas mé mé féin feels more like "I got dressed up" to me. For simply getting dressed in the morning, wouldn't Chuir mé mo chuid éadaigh orm. suffice?
Could I have confirmation that 'gléas' is not really appropriate for just getting dressed? I may have been misusing it for rather a long time.... :/ In other words, 'Táim gléasta' = 'I'm dressed' or 'I'm dressed up'?

I looked to insert a glamorous looking smiley and have only just noticed that the smileys don't have bodies. 8O And people expect me to notice minute details about grammar...... :twisted:

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Saoirse wrote:
[I looked to insert a glamorous looking smiley and have only just noticed that the smileys don't have bodies. 8O And people expect me to notice minute details about grammar...... :twisted:


body: :dog:

body: :guiness:

everybody: :party:


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Saoirse wrote:
Breandán wrote:
I could be wrong but Ghléas mé mé féin feels more like "I got dressed up" to me. For simply getting dressed in the morning, wouldn't Chuir mé mo chuid éadaigh orm. suffice?
Could I have confirmation that 'gléas' is not really appropriate for just getting dressed? I may have been misusing it for rather a long time.... :/ In other words, 'Táim gléasta' = 'I'm dressed' or 'I'm dressed up'?

I looked to insert a glamorous looking smiley and have only just noticed that the smileys don't have bodies. 8O And people expect me to notice minute details about grammar...... :twisted:


Ii think you can use both in that context.
Personally I'd say - Chuir mé mo chuid éadaigh orm.
Bhí sé gléasta go deas. He was dressed well.

But I think "gléasta" for simple dressing is more common in other dialects or in the Caighdeán (does it have a Munster ring to it :mrgreen: ? )

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 Post subject: Re: In GOT we trust
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
But I think "gléasta" for simple dressing is more common in other dialects or in the Caighdeán (does it have a Munster ring to it ? )
Are you suggesting that people are better dressed elsewhere!! Gumbi, An Cionnfhaolach and An Lon Dubh will have to post photos of themselves in their glad rags for this one! :mrgreen:

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