Is breá liom é seo!

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Táim ag foghlaim Gaelainn na Mumhan

Tá fáilte roim nach aon cheartú!
I am a learner. Any translations offered are practice and should not be used unless confirmed.

Aye, but shouldn't it be Nótaí an Loin Dhuibh???

That's my fault, I'm always thinking with the buailte, as it is how I normally write and often forget the "h". I passed
the title on to the mods, should be fixed soon I'd say.

The plan is that my notes from Séadna will be collected there. However I'm also planning to write out some letters Peadar Ua Laoghaire
wrote and write similar notes for the short story collection "Ó Bhéal an Bhab" and "Idir dhá lios" by Maidhc Dainín Ó Sé. That's the current initial plan.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

Thanks for you contributions, a Loin Dhuibh. I am sure there have been a lot of learners of Munster Irish over the years who wished they had found you sooner. Hopefully these notes will also serve future learners well and help bolster Munster Irish and in so doing boost Irish as a whole.

Incidentally, I just assumed there was no lenition because of the DNTLS rule. Does it not apply in this case, i.e., in the genitive of an Lon Dubh? (and what is the proper vocative of Lon Dubh?)

(Fixed the vocative per discussion below)

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

I though attributive adjectives were lenited despite that?

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Táim ag foghlaim Gaelainn na Mumhan

Tá fáilte roim nach aon cheartú!
I am a learner. Any translations offered are practice and should not be used unless confirmed.

Good old Gaelainn, always some nuance, that's why we love it!

In Munster the attributive adjectives don't obey the DNTLS rules. However I know the DNTLS rule has different "strengths" in each dialect, so "Nótaí an Loin Duibh"
could be correct for other dialects.

A Bhreandáin, the vocative of Lon Dubh is A Loin Dhuibh, with lenition on the adjective (in Munster at least). Although since people
would rarely say something like A Loin Dhuibh, this is just sticking to the traditional grammar, not necessarily what would actually
be said.

EDIT: Correct vocative.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

You're right, I keep forgetting that. (Or often I just assume that the higher beings have made a "mistake" for a reason. )


Not sure what you mean that they "would rarely say" it. Do they avoid the vocative somehow? use the nominative in actual speech? (a Bhonnáin Bhuí seems much longer! )

A name with an article would be a special case, I suppose, anyway.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

Fully up and running! Great resource!

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1556

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Just that whenever the vocative is used outside typical situations (calling a single person) there can be a tendency to use the nominative or the dative. For instance for the vocative plural people sometimes say "A fhearaibh" even though "A fheara" is traditionally correct. So I wouldn't be too surprised if somebody just said "A Lon Dhubh" (with the vocative lention on the adjective still in place), although most would say "A Loin Dhuibh".

Thanks for the new section. I hope to be making new stuff for it more frequently now.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

maybe he meant that you seldom need to talk to a blackbird in everyday life

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne