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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012 4:12 pm 
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Doh,my head hurts :facepalm: ha ha.So maybe one of the first two that i wrote seem correct?
Think i need a :guiness:


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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012 4:34 pm 
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weeman wrote:
Doh,my head hurts :facepalm: ha ha.So maybe one of the first two that i wrote seem correct?
Think i need a :guiness:
:guiness:
Have two, 'cause I'm going to add that it's láimh in the nominative as well as the dative in Connacht. :winkgrin:

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012 4:35 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
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Firstly, "Láimh" in the Tuiseal Tabharthach (the dative) which is good for Munster and older Irish but I think archaic for everywhere else and the Caighdeán (or the irish standard). It would be "lámh" in the Caighdeán. I personally prefer it as "Láimh" though.


in the dative case, I think it's "láimh" in all dialects and in standard Irish.
In standard Irish there are 5 feminine words (+Éirinn) that have a specific dative case (slender ending):
lámh - láimh, bos - bois, bróg - bróig, cluas -cluais, cos - cois


The standard, I believe, has gotten rid of those 5 with their recently published recommendations, unfortunately!

Crossed with Breandán- have three now :guiness: ;) !

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012 4:54 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
weeman wrote:
Doh,my head hurts :facepalm: ha ha.So maybe one of the first two that i wrote seem correct?
Think i need a :guiness:
:guiness:
Have two, 'cause I'm going to add that it's láimh in the nominative as well as the dative in Connacht. :winkgrin:


That would make more sense as "lámh" is "láimhe" in the Tuiseal Ginideach.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012 6:09 pm 
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I think there isnt enough guinness in the world ha ha.This is all beyond me now.I think the best i can do and hope for is just ask you kind and knowledgeable people to help me and to recommend how to write the second part of my quote "Oh Lord, raise me to thy right hand and count me among thy saints"

If anyone could point me in the right direction and maybe others agree and give conformation that would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you guys.I wait in anticipation :LOL:


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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012 6:59 pm 
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weeman wrote:
Thank you guys.I wait in anticipation
Is 'anticipation' another way to say 'the pub'...... :twisted:

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012 7:36 pm 
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An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

3. A Thiarna, ardaigh ar do láimh dheis mé agus déan mé a áireamh i measc do Naomh

3. I have a problem with this one, "déan mé" doesn't make sense here for me. Its seems odd. I don't think "déan" is the correct verb to use. "Cuir" is the verb most commonly used with "[b]á


Cionnhaolach, check 'Graiméar Gaeilge na mBráithre Criostaí' 15:51 p194 on-line. Or just google "déan mé/é/iad (etc) a" (+verbal noun). Or just look at the first part of the quote: déanfaidh mé díoltas a imirt :)

Lughaidh, it might help if you offered a translation - or confirmed one - instead of restricting yourself to the finer points of grammar.

Weeman, if you get no confirmation here, go to 'daltaí.com' or 'daltaí na gaeilge' (one and the same).


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Errigal wrote:
An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

3. A Thiarna, ardaigh ar do láimh dheis mé agus déan mé a áireamh i measc do Naomh

3. I have a problem with this one, "déan mé" doesn't make sense here for me. Its seems odd. I don't think "déan" is the correct verb to use. "Cuir" is the verb most commonly used with "[b]á


Cionnhaolach, check 'Graiméar Gaeilge na mBráithre Criostaí' 15:51 p194 on-line. Or just google "déan mé/é/iad (etc) a" (+verbal noun).

Lughaidh, it might help if you offered a translation - or confirmed one - instead of restricting yourself to the finer points of grammar.
I dread to think what you think of my offerings.....! :mrgreen:
weeman wrote:
Thank you guys.I wait in anticipation
Saoirse wrote:
Is 'anticipation' another way to say 'the pub'......

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012 8:30 pm 
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Errigal wrote:
Lughaidh, it might help if you offered a translation - or confirmed one - instead of restricting yourself to the finer points of grammar.


Some of us are interested in the finer points of grammar.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Sep 2012 8:40 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Errigal wrote:
Lughaidh, it might help if you offered a translation - or confirmed one - instead of restricting yourself to the finer points of grammar.


Some of us are interested in the finer points of grammar.


We all are - none more than I (as my posts on both sites will prove) -but weeman has been seeking confirmation for a while now. A job for a native speaker like yourself, I'd say... :)


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